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« on: December 05, 2008, 04:38:56 AM »

Hi there,

I recently downloaded the Mac demo of Aquaria, and tried it out for the first time this evening, but I have a few questions. They're probably really basic, but I've looked around through the forums a bit and not found answers yet, so here goes... Try not to laugh if this all sounds really stupid to those of you who've been playing for a while.

1. I guess the most basic, which could render the others irrelevant, is: is there any sort of manual or other documentation available? I did see a few posts making references to an HTML walkthrough file that was supposed to come with the download, but it didn't. I suppose it only comes with the Windows version or maybe with the full version rather than the demo? I don't actually want a walkthrough as such - I hate spoilers - I'd just like to be able to find my way around and hopefully survive for more than 10 minutes.

2. There does seem to be some kind of help text available when you click on the question mark in the menu that has the songs and things, but it flashes by pretty much instantaneously, and there doesn't seem to be any way to make it slow down or back up, so I've only ever seen the last screen of text. Is there some trick to getting it to slow down or scroll backwards so that you can see the first part?

3. I was going to ask whether there was any way to save, but I've seen a few references to some kind of special crystals you apparently use to save. So my revised question is: how far to you have to go (read: how long do you have to manage to stay alive) before you find one? I seem to generally get killed as soon as I encounter anything hostile, and theres 's been no sort of save point that I can recognize in the parts I've seen so far. Sad

4. I have not been able to figure out how to  get songs to work. I apparently learned one called the Shield Song, but I haven't been able to use it. I saw what the notes were supposed to be in the menu, but playing them doesn't seem to do anything. Does the timing of them have to be exactly right, or is there a certain minimum number of repetitions before it takes effect, or what? And how will I know if it does (other than possibly not dying)?

5. Likewise with recipes. I apparently have some which are supposed to be able to heal me, but I'm not sure how to use them. It says something about dragging ingredients around, but nothing about what ingredients you need or where you're supposed to get them.

I expect #3-5 might be answered if I could find a manual, or access the help text, and might even become apparent later in the game if I survive long enough. It's just that survival thing I'm having trouble with at the moment.
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2008, 05:00:29 AM »

Hi there,

I recently downloaded the Mac demo of Aquaria, and tried it out for the first time this evening, but I have a few questions. They're probably really basic, but I've looked around through the forums a bit and not found answers yet, so here goes... Try not to laugh if this all sounds really stupid to those of you who've been playing for a while.

1. I guess the most basic, which could render the others irrelevant, is: is there any sort of manual or other documentation available? I did see a few posts making references to an HTML walkthrough file that was supposed to come with the download, but it didn't. I suppose it only comes with the Windows version or maybe with the full version rather than the demo? I don't actually want a walkthrough as such - I hate spoilers - I'd just like to be able to find my way around and hopefully survive for more than 10 minutes.

Yeah, not sure what Ambrosia included in the Mac release! There is the built-in help system though.

2. There does seem to be some kind of help text available when you click on the question mark in the menu that has the songs and things, but it flashes by pretty much instantaneously, and there doesn't seem to be any way to make it slow down or back up, so I've only ever seen the last screen of text. Is there some trick to getting it to slow down or scroll backwards so that you can see the first part?

Yep! there are BIG arrows on the left that you should be able to use to scroll the text. You can also use the cursor keys. If there's a problem getting those to work, let us know.

3. I was going to ask whether there was any way to save, but I've seen a few references to some kind of special crystals you apparently use to save. So my revised question is: how far to you have to go (read: how long do you have to manage to stay alive) before you find one? I seem to generally get killed as soon as I encounter anything hostile, and theres 's been no sort of save point that I can recognize in the parts I've seen so far. Sad

Uh, there shouldn't be any way to die before you get to one. After Naija wakes up, you have a very chill path down to the first save crystal. There is really no way to die there unless you decide that you really want to die and stand in front of enemies that fire like 1 shot every 30 seconds. So I can't see how you're dying before getting to the first crystal which pops up a huge hint saying "Right Click to Save!". Smiley

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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2008, 06:40:24 AM »

Yeah, not sure what Ambrosia included in the Mac release!
Just the game file, nothing else.

Yep! there are BIG arrows on the left that you should be able to use to scroll the text. You can also use the cursor keys. If there's a problem getting those to work, let us know./quote]
OK, this is a little strange -- I'm pretty sure I had no arrows, scroll bars or any other navigation in the help before. But when I went back in a third time just now, not only were the arrows  there but it didn't do the flashing-by-in-a-split-second thing at all! The text just showed up and stayed put. So I guess I just stumbled across some weird glitch the first time I played. I don't think I tried to access help at all the second time I went through...

Uh, there shouldn't be any way to die before you get to one. After Naija wakes up, you have a very chill path down to the first save crystal. There is really no way to die there unless you decide that you really want to die and stand in front of enemies that fire like 1 shot every 30 seconds. So I can't see how you're dying before getting to the first crystal which pops up a huge hint saying "Right Click to Save!". Smiley/quote]
Er... Maybe I'm just specially talented at dying?  Embarrassed

The first time, those little octopus-ish things kept shooting pink blobs at me while I was trying (and failing) to activate the shield song. Apparently they got in enough shots to kill me before I could find a way to make the song work. The second time, I was marginally better at evading them (probably due to not standing there trying to sing), but still didn't really have good enough control of my movement to get away from them completely and kept running into walls and the like. Eventually I did a speed burst to try and get clear of them -- and went careening right into the big crab, which apparently was the last bit of damage I needed to die.

However, I am pleased to say that the third time through I managed to not die until much later (got swarmed while trying to figure out how to make the seahorse I'd ended up on the back of move, and figured it out a second too late to survive the experience). And I was somewhat chagrined to eventually discover the first save crystal -- just past the area where I died the first two times. I also finally got the hang of the shield song -- I think I was doing it too fast before or something (out of panic due to being bombarded with little pink blobs of death). So I think I'm finding my (webbed) feet, at last, and hopefully shouldn't have too many more embarrassing newbie questions.

Anyway, thanks for the reply. I really do like the game thus far -- I was just finding it frustrating at first due to my apparent unique talent for getting killed in unexpected ways. Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2008, 07:54:17 AM »

Ah, maybe its your mouse that's giving you troubles? You can also try controlling Naija by using the A,S,D,W keys. Some people find this makes the game a lot easier to get a handle in. (I imagine some people have trouble with non-laser mice etc...)

Also: if you're really stuck on casting the songs (which would be a shame, there's actually code in the game that lets you make a certain number of mistakes while casting the songs and still accepts them as valid), you can use the number keys to activate them. Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2008, 08:06:11 AM »

I think it was more just not being used to the type of movement the game uses, where there's a certain amount of inertia and water movement and what not to cope with. I'm getting more used to it now and crash into walls and giant crabs much less frequently than I did initially.

It is also possible that some of my slowness at figuring out what the hell I'm doing in this game stems from having averaged 3-4 hours sleep a night for the past two weeks due to a massive work crunch, meaning that I am probably not mentally at my best these days. Though why I find troubleshooting PHP and CSS on no sleep easier than steering a seahorse is anyone's guess... Smiley
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